View Full Version : Post Rollover Checklist & Video
Fifthpro
03-12-2008, 21:48
After seeing a few rollovers and damn near getting to post pics on my rig to illustrate various aspects I sat down one day (it was longer than a day) and developed a handbook that I keep in my rig that outlines a number of basic and advanced recovery aspects. A few books were made and passed out to my friends and from time to time I will post a page or two on a forum. This one is of particular importance as it may save someones life or at least help to conduct a safe recovery of a rolled vehicle.
As with anything I post I ask for feedback and if you find error or have a better way of doing it feel free to hit me with the data. I do not claim to be the sole author of anything and have derived the data from what I have learned from other folks that I have had the pleasure of working, training or wheeling with.
So, now that the disclaimer is out of the way....lets talk about recovering a rolled vehicle. Hopefully you have not had this pleasure but if it happens what do you do? This could be a life or death decision.......
Here is what I suggest as a good starting point for a checklist. If you find one better use theirs or add to this one; simply pass on the info to the rest of us!
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg227/Fifthpro/PostRolloverChecklist.jpg
They say a picture is worth a thousand words...how much is a video of what not do to worth?
Check it out...
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/Tomahawk_Jeep/th_PakistaniVehicleRecovery.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/Tomahawk_Jeep/?action=view¤t=PakistaniVehicleRecovery.flv)
I hope this helps!
awsome what not to do video
HillBillE
03-13-2008, 00:01
Wow! Had to watch that one twice!
btw: I really like the, "or blow in place" option.:D
Fifthpro
03-13-2008, 20:48
Wow! Had to watch that one twice!
btw: I really like the, "or blow in place" option.:D
See that is an advantage for a military audience.....it make sense without further explanation and the same checklist applies here in the mountains of VA or in the mountains of CarJackAhStan.
trailsnail
03-14-2008, 02:05
Kinda off topic, but a good load plan will help if a roll over does occur as well.
JeepinSoldier
03-17-2008, 16:19
Kinda off topic, but a good load plan will help if a roll over does occur as well.
Not off topic at all! A good load plan and cargo tie downs are an essential - but often overlooked - piece of vehicle preparation for the trail.
At Oak Ridge, I had the cooler on the rear seat next to my 5 yo daughter. It was secured with two strong bungee chords that ran under the seat, between the seat bottom and back and over the top of the cooler. One of the event participants asked me ' Isn't that kinda a PITA to be getting drinks out of all the time?' I just smiled and said 'No amount of effort or inconvienience is too much to insure my daughter's safety.'
I had to relearn the lesson myself earlier after my LJ spit out a canvas chair on the freeway. Fortuneately nobody was hurt. It will not happaen again.
Fifthpro
03-17-2008, 21:25
Fortunately for most of us, a poor load plan and or unsecured kit in our rigs should not be an issue..if so, I want to see your CSM! This is one of the things that should happen without comment or Uncle Sam wasted a ton of time, money and effort on you. (Well, you "O's" will still need a reminder from time to time......:D)
I have a spot for everything in my jeep. Maybe that is just the military in me. I like to know exactly where something is when i need it without having to dig around, and know that everything is secured.
I have been working on getting a cargo net for the rear of the jeep. We have the rockhard sportcage, but that is not going to do crap if we end up rolling over and I have lug wrenchs, tools and all the spare parts bouncing around inside the jeep. Until I get the cargo net, I have found a way to secure the gear down by using mini d-ring shackles attached to the mounts on the floor and with a bunch of ratcheting straps.
You never know when something will happen that may cause you to tip over or roll. I have the items in the rear secured 100% of the time.
On a side note....
When I was at fort hood a bunch of years ago, I was driving the HMMWV across a field as we were getting chased by the MPs (I was OPFOR). We had our metal chalk block, drip pan and other gear laying between the rear seats. We were leaving a field and about to cross a road when we dropped our front end into a washout. We were going pretty fast and everyone got bruises from the seat belts. (luckily we were strapped in). We also avoided being seriously injured by that damn metal chalk block and other stuff that came flying forward into the front of the HMMWV. I think the only person that got hit by anything was my LT and that was the drip pan against the back of her kevlar. It could have been nasty. Lesson learned there...make sure everything is secure because you never know.
korisu56
03-17-2008, 21:55
Noted. Diego, what kind of cargo netting did you have again?
JeepinSoldier
03-18-2008, 10:02
On a side note....
When I was at fort hood a bunch of years ago, I was driving the HMMWV across a field as we were getting chased by the MPs (I was OPFOR). We had our metal chalk block, drip pan and other gear laying between the rear seats. We were leaving a field and about to cross a road when we dropped our front end into a washout. We were going pretty fast and everyone got bruises from the seat belts. (luckily we were strapped in). We also avoided being seriously injured by that damn metal chalk block and other stuff that came flying forward into the front of the HMMWV. I think the only person that got hit by anything was my LT and that was the drip pan against the back of her kevlar. It could have been nasty. Lesson learned there...make sure everything is secure because you never know.
Yup, unsecure chock blocks can be killers. I read a report from the Aviation Safety Center about a UH 60 that crashed in Afghanistan. It did an extreme manuver and one of the wheel chocks flew forward from the rear compartment into the pilots flight controls, jamming them......
Dang, death by chock-block. Got all my trail gear is in Bestop saddlebags strapped to the roll cage, but I'll still have some gum and other little crap bouncing around...
korisu56
03-18-2008, 20:05
Saddle bags...are these securable?
Fifthpro
03-21-2009, 00:53
Just when I though t I had seen it all....this guy is one lucky SOB!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xNZwwUwKLI
Holy crap. You know....the Army tell us not to jump out, but damn, they never told us to jump on when rolling over. If he made it through with no major medical issues, he is a lucky man.
Fifthpro
03-21-2009, 09:15
I did not even know what the clip was about but when I saw what they were doing I almost started to speak in tongues to the computer......they had to be drunk to have not seen what they were doing was going to do that......and then the bozo is under it while it is being moved in the first place. Darwin missed his next victim because Lady Luck had something for him.
Saved it, Saved it, rut row, did not save it......ahhh, saved it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKGTBwvAWTI
korisu56
03-21-2009, 12:50
hahahah. Great videos.
I've been through 2 roll overs and they are far from fun, and for someone un-experienced can be really dangerous even after the roll is finished, I really recommend everyone prints that out, laminates it and keeps it in the glove box, pull it out and post it in the Jeep when you go off road, my first roll came out of no where. You just never know when you may hit something just wrong at the wrong time.
Also a few other things, make 100% sure that EVERYTHING in your Jeep is secured, I have learned this the hard way twice, the first time I forgot to tie down my air tools and they could well have left me in a lot of pain, the second time I forgot to tie down the cruise box I had in the back with all my tools and recovery equipment, while it never got close to hitting me, I had 15+ minutes of just cleaning up everything!
Also I thoroughly recommend that everyone signs up for AAA, they saved my butt both times with tows!
And of course never go alone!
Fodder99
06-13-2011, 16:15
This check list save our asses yesterday. We were able to stop mine from rolling but in the process of recovering it we rolled the other Jeep I was in. Fifthpro you have some absolutely killer guides here I know i sure appreciate them more after yesterday, thanks man.
Fifthpro
06-21-2011, 21:11
Fodder 99, Super glad it help in such a positive manner!!! Thanks for the feedback
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