User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13

Thread: Death Wobble..

  1. #1
    THE She-Jeeper TheRenegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Atlantic City
    Posts
    1,955

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Retired
    Served
    1978 to 1998

    Closest Installation

    Fort Dix
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Question Death Wobble..


    anyone ever hear of DW when BFG AT (33X10) were on?
    '92 XJ, 5" lift. Never had it with the Super Swampers tho....

    tryin' to figure out the puzzle for a friend...
    Getting my morning coffee at the mud truck. Don't ever talk to me until I've had my morning coffee. Seriously, don't. I'm venomous. @BronxZooCobra.

  2. #2
    Land Squid Jeffb_79's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Fairfax, VA
    Posts
    3,593

    Branch
    Navy
    Status
    Served
    Served
    1999 to 2010

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Did it just happen out of no where, or did it happen immediately after putting the tires on?
    If after the tires were put on, it's probably a balancing issue.

  3. #3
    Zombie Slayer MetViper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Copperas Cove
    Posts
    658

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Serving
    Served
    2002 to Present

    Closest Installation

    Fort Hood
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ....DW usually isn't a tire problem, but a steering issue. Check all tierod and rod ends for any play or wear. Also check the trackbar for any play or wear in the ends. Check steering that the steering box bolts are loose. Make sure the "frame" around the steering box isn't cracked, and also check for cracks on the steering box itself where to bolt attach.

    Good luck!
    Prepared for the Zombies

    91 XJ, 4.5" RC Long Arm Suspension, 35" BFG KM's on black steelies, Ford 8.8 rear, D30 w/Aussie, AA SYE, Custom bumpers, JCR Rock Sliders, Rusty's gas tank skid


  4. #4
    Land Squid Jeffb_79's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Fairfax, VA
    Posts
    3,593

    Branch
    Navy
    Status
    Served
    Served
    1999 to 2010

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MetViper View Post
    ....DW usually isn't a tire problem, but a steering issue. Check all tierod and rod ends for any play or wear. Also check the trackbar for any play or wear in the ends. Check steering that the steering box bolts are loose. Make sure the "frame" around the steering box isn't cracked, and also check for cracks on the steering box itself where to bolt attach.

    Good luck!
    True, although from personal experiences that I've been tracking down on my own rig over the past few months now... mine turned out to be a tire problem.
    That's why I asked if it happened right after the tire change, or if it started out of the blue. If it happened right after he changed tires, it would be pretty coincidental that something failed/went bad during the tire change.

  5. #5
    That Guy afjeep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Valdosta
    Posts
    3,587

    Branch
    Air Force
    Status
    Serving
    Served
    2004 to Present

    Closest Installation

    Moody AFB
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i had it when my tires were outta balance, but that was due a bad steering stablizer.
    2004 Rubi, Poison Spyder Bumper with Trail Stinger. Warn M8000 winch, Rock Krawler X-factor long arm 4 inch lift, 35x12.50x15 BFG KM2s on Procomp 8 inch steelies, Tom Woods Driveshaft, Poison Syder Full Roll Cage, Tuff Designs rear bumper/Tire carrier, MetalCloak Arched Tube Fenders with 6 Inch Flares, Flowmaster Hushpower Muffler, Vanco Big Disk Brake upgrade, Line-X'd tub and cage.

  6. #6
    I am a chapter of one sincitycj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Las Vegas, Nv.
    Posts
    10,672

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Served
    Served
    1985 to 1989

    Closest Installation

    Nellis AFB
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Jeff and Met, you both could be correct. If the old tires had been on for a while and there was a steering or alignment issue the tires will develope a wear pattern. When the new tires are put on the pattern will not be there so any problems will be accented. I would go over the steering and suspension checking for all the normal issues i.e. play in steering box, bad stabilizer worm or miisign bushings and so forth. If you find no problems in those areas have the alignment checked out. Excessive caster angle can cause some of the DW symtoms. Here's a pretty good article that explains it better than I could.

    http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/dw.html
    Quote Originally Posted by usnavymitchells View Post
    went to google to see if I too was a dumb ass!!! Well actually I am.

    http://www.sincityrubs.com/

  7. #7
    Is scrounging for parts dmaxjeep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Arlington, VA - Silver Spring, MD / AL / MDW
    Posts
    1,109

    Branch
    Army Reserves
    Status
    Serving
    Served
    1989 to Present

    Closest Installation

    Fort Myer
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    how can you tell if your steering stabilizer is bad or not?
    1990 YJ, Sold

    1998 TJ, traded

    2009 JK Rubicon Unlimited

  8. #8
    I am a chapter of one sincitycj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Las Vegas, Nv.
    Posts
    10,672

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Served
    Served
    1985 to 1989

    Closest Installation

    Nellis AFB
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dmaxjeep View Post
    how can you tell if your steering stabilizer is bad or not?
    The most obvious way is to look for sign of leaking around the seal area. You can also remove the stab and move it manually. You should feel some resistance. Mine was an easy one to diagnose, whae I took it of the rod moved when ever I tilted it.
    Quote Originally Posted by usnavymitchells View Post
    went to google to see if I too was a dumb ass!!! Well actually I am.

    http://www.sincityrubs.com/

  9. #9
    G.I. Grandpa SGM O's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Monument
    Posts
    2,616

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Retired
    Served
    1978 to 2014

    Closest Installation

    USAF Academy
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    This is just a guess, but the Super Swampers were wider than 10"? So a tall skinny tire that is new would/could lead to a death wobble situation that the wider, softer, worn Super Swamper were masking. The other thing to check is tire pressure. Depending on who did the mounting, if they put 35 psi in the tires they may be over inflated for the weight of the Jeep so there is even less then 10" of tire making contact to the street.

  10. #10
    THE She-Jeeper TheRenegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Atlantic City
    Posts
    1,955

    Branch
    Army
    Status
    Retired
    Served
    1978 to 1998

    Closest Installation

    Fort Dix
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    this is an "un-ordinary" problem cuz it only happened when the BFG AT's were put on.


    with the SuperSwampers there was NEVER any DW.


    this is the second set of BFG AT's, which led me to believe it was the Brand.


    that's why I was wondering if anyone had/heard of DW with BFG AT's.
    looks like the BFG's come off and, the SuperSwampers go on to stay.

    Jeff: it started within minutes of the tires being changed.
    Last edited by TheRenegade; 09-09-2009 at 20:14. Reason: forgot note to Jeff
    Getting my morning coffee at the mud truck. Don't ever talk to me until I've had my morning coffee. Seriously, don't. I'm venomous. @BronxZooCobra.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Get the MJ Supporter Membership for a little less than $0.06 a day and get more space, 2 MJ Stickers and no banners ads. [Check it out]