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    Default Superwinch P8500 issue

    Hello all,
    I tried searching up any issues with this winch with the search option with no luck. If I am asking something that has already been answered, my apologies!

    I got me Jeep about a year ago ( April 2009 ) with a Superwinch P8500 on it. Damn thing looked like it was put on a few months before I got the Jeep. Seller told me he pulled himself out with it twice.

    I used the Jeep a lot for off roading last summer and into the fall. I would say I pulled a max of 15 times with it out of mud, off rocks, ect. I was always careful to make sure it did not overheat and to use it correctly by making sure I was pulling with the first layer on the drum, ect. At the end of the summer, I had my issue start.

    We were pulling me up a hill because I was stuck on a rock and my wheels were just spinning (before I had lockers in). I went to spool it out with the load of my Jeep on it, and it did nothing. I just kept hitting out for like 10 mins while letting it take a break and it let go eventually. Figured I might have just pulled a little to hard or something.

    A few weeks later, I had the same issue pulling out of the mud exept it was when I was going forward. I let it cool down again thinking it was the same issue. No luck. my buddy suggested it might be a solinoid and tapped the side of the motor with a rock and it started going again, but super slow. After getting the Jeep out and waiting another hour to reel in the cable again, I knew I had a problem.

    Buddy told me to clean the motor up. I unbolted it, and it was dirty in there. I used some cleaner and got the gunk out and lubed it up. Without the load I tested it and it was spooling in and out well. I figured problem was solved! Then I had issues with the tranny and it was down for the count until winter.

    After having tranny fixed and lockers put in over the winter, it just ened up sitting. i wanted to put it in storage, but didn't end up doing it. I been driving it around the past few weeks getting it ready for spring and when I was parked someone released the clutch and the cable was all jacked up. Took out the controller to spool it in and got about 1ft in and then it stoped. It was moving super slow too. Now it does nothing exept click when I hit in, and no noise at all for out.

    Any ideas on things to try? I know all the grounds and connections are good. Superwinch troubleshooting tips said try jumping power to the motor with jumper cables. I did that and got no responce from it. Bad motor? I contected Superwinch via e-mail about warrenty but I bet since I am not original owner it will not work out. Where would I order a motor if need be?

    Thanks all!

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    I'm mbetting motor. It might be corrosion at the solenoid bars/contacts (where the big wire hook to the solenoids)

    But it sounds just like mine did, when the motor went.

    Contact Superwinch about ordering a motor, I paid just over $100 (includes shipping) for the motor on my Champion winch.

    Couldn't find anything on the web, so I sent them an email.

    You also might be able to get it rebuilt, some starter/generator/alternator shops will rebuild winch motors.

    Good Luck!

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    Hopefully they respond to my e-mail. Thanks for the help.

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    Hopefully the emails get you taken care of.


    One other thing, I read some time back that you shouldn't spool out the cable unless necessary, like you have a load and you have to back down or let someone else down. Something about the brake being engaged whenever you spool in or out and doing it without a load can burn things up. Is there anyone that can speak more on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Green View Post
    Hopefully the emails get you taken care of.


    One other thing, I read some time back that you shouldn't spool out the cable unless necessary, like you have a load and you have to back down or let someone else down. Something about the brake being engaged whenever you spool in or out and doing it without a load can burn things up. Is there anyone that can speak more on this?
    That does make sence. I never spooled it out more than like 1ft without needed too though.

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    I called them again on Monday, this time they were open. Ended up talking to a tech guy and he said he did listen to my message. Said without and original receipt that no warranty stuff can be done. Also said he would get back to me with a price on a new motor. Let's hope they do. I Go into surgery tomorrow for my wrist and wanted to get it fixed before then. Oh well.

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    Contacting a friend @ Superwinch for you!

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    Here is his reply...

    For the LP8500, the info given was good. Here is what I would do.

    Leaving the ground cable connected on the bottom of the motor, disconnect the 3 connections on the top of motor. Using a jumper cable, jumper from the "A" terminal to either "F1" or "F2". Using the other jumper cable, jumper Battery + to the remaining "F" terminal. The motor should turn. This is bypassing the solenoids. If the motor turns, the solenoids could be bad. If the motor does not turn, the motor has an issue.

    If the motor has an issue, remove it. Remove the armature from the motor casing. Check that the 4 brushes move freely in their brush holders. From sitting, which it seems this winch has done, the brushes can seize in their holders, and then the motor won't run. Even if there is some corrosion from condensation inside the motor from sitting, freeing up the brushes and cleaning the armature with a scotchbrite pad should make things happy again. Corrosion in the brush holders can seize the brushes, so some fine sandpaper in the holders to free up the brushes usually will work out fine. Just like any car, sitting outside for long periods isn't good for it.

    I will gladly help the guy with the winch if he can bring it to Putnam, and I'll throw it on the test bench and get it running for him, FOC. Let me know.
    I like the FOC thing!!!

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    Scott e-mailed me today. Thanks a bunch rroadkill!

    Little off topic but how do you like being in the coast guard? I am almost done with the Marines and was thinking of joining a different branch and liked the idea of USCG. I would stick with the reserve though.

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    LOVE IT!!!

    I'll call sometime this weekend (if I remember) and we can chat!

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