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    Is this a good welder to try and learn on.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lincoln-El...-Cart/11346223


    Have my eye on a slightly used one for 300.

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    Great welder I have the 145 and love it.
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    It is a great welder. I have owned the 100 and have the 135 now. Get yourself a bottle and do not run the flux core wire, you will be alot happier with the ease of welding and cleanliness of your work.
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    I have this one at the house. I love it. Great machine to learn with. I bought mine used off ebay. The regulator was broke, so I run flux core with it. No problems with it. I will eventually get it setup for mig, but it does everything I need it to.

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    awsome machine. I learned on the one Jacob has now, I used his old 100 ALOT, and I now have a 180. the 220V machines are by far easier to use and get better penetration as well as better looking welds (for an amature) but the 135 is an awsome machine to learn on and $300 is a great price
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    Nothing wrong with it, in fact its a good welder, in fact I own one. I use it for friends who want to learn to weld. But I will say I am a BIGOT on this and my Blood runs Blue. Its Miller time for me. Especially when you do the comparo and cost it out.

    Wal Mart $772.07 Red L 135 amp machine

    Miller 180 amp machine, 220V $839.77, no sales tax, free shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-MILLERMAT...item1e61376afe I have bought from this company and that are stand up outfit.

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    Miller 140 amp machine, 110v $709, no sales tax, free shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-MILLERMAT...item56429276f4
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageSun4x4 View Post
    Nothing wrong with it, in fact its a good welder, in fact I own one. I use it for friends who want to learn to weld. But I will say I am a BIGOT on this and my Blood runs Blue. Its Miller time for me. Especially when you do the comparo and cost it out.

    Wal Mart $772.07 Red L 135 amp machine

    Miller 180 amp machine, 220V $839.77, no sales tax, free shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-MILLERMAT...item1e61376afe I have bought from this company and that are stand up outfit.

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    Miller 140 amp machine, 110v $709, no sales tax, free shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-MILLERMAT...item56429276f4
    OR go to Lowes and get a Lincoln 180 $669
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_256723-1703-...3FNtt%3Dwelder
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    Lincoln 140 $524
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_256722-1703-...3FNtt%3Dwelder
    or

    Lincoln 125 $419
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_2961-1703-K2...3FNtt%3Dwelder
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    Or go to your local AirGas or welding supplier and buy one of Miller's new dual voltage machines. That is what I want.
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    Or go to "Welding Depot" and get a 180 w/cart and extras for $559.00
    I have one and is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Or go to your local AirGas or welding supplier and buy one of Miller's new dual voltage machines. That is what I want.
    I have the Miller 211 and while I bought it because of the dual voltage 110/220 I have never used the 110 side of the machine...but if I ever get in a place where I don't have 220v then 110v is my fall back.

    Yes the 110v mode does reduce the capability of the machine.

    Take away: Most welders out there provide good service and good value if you do your shopping. But like most things in this world be it washing machines or welders there is good, better and best and Miller fails into the best side of the equation. WHY? Miller does not make a 'hobbyist' grade of machine and be confused by amps and ability to weld railroad tracks. The Miller 140/180 series is found in tens of thousands of shops across American that don't have a need to weld 3/4 in plate. Most metal workers work in the thin gage such as body panels on cars and other light sheet meal fabrication. For them buying a machine that is in use sometimes nearly all day and in multiple shifts is important. Miller builds their 140 to the same industrial standards as their larger units...you get what you pay for sometimes.

    Many years ago when I wanted to learn welding I asked a Pro to make a recommendation to me. He told me to buy a Miller 135 and if buy some chance I did not like it or whatever to swing by his shop and he would buy it from me. He then said if you buy any other brand, sell it on Craigs list.

    Over the years I have had several Millers, I have been able to sell them for nearly what I paid for them which makes moving up real easy.

    If you buying a welder to just work on your Jeep then I would suggest a 140/180 series in the Miller line. Millers are rated VERY conservatively. The 140 will do just about anything you want to when you learn how to use it and a few tricks that help take it beyond its stated abilities. The 180 will let you open the door to metal fabrication as in building bumpers, reinforcement and doing more and more. If your doing this at the shop level the 211 will let you kick that up a notch or two. That is best when you spend all day fabbing from scratch things like a off road trailer fro a client and you are really burning a lot of steel.

    You won't go wrong with a Big Red, Hobart and any of the major brands, you will spend a bit less and most likely meet all your needs. But only can make that call. But if you want the best, MILLER TIME!
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