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    I was heading to work this morning when out of no where my clutch pedal on my 86 CJ with T-5 would hardly move and I could not shift. After towing it home I crawled underneath to check the linkage and except for a missing boot all appears normal, as best as I can tell. I tried to push the exposed en of the clutch fork by hand and it would not budge. Should it? Unfortunately I have no one else here to push the pedal while I watch. Any ideas on what else I should be looking at?
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    How does the pivot bearing look at the pedal?

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    How does the pivot bearing look at the pedal?
    Didn't pull the pedal to look at it, but when I took the bellcrank loose the pedal moved smoothly.
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    May be the throwout bearing froze up. The clutch fork should move a little by hand, but to fully disengage the clutch by hand it nearly impossible due to the force requirements. I have taken a ratchet strap looped it around the front axle and clutch fork and tightened it up to disengage the clutch before. Did it make any noise before/while it happened? Where did you disconnect the bellcrank? Pedal side or fork side? I'd say maybe disconect both sides and see if the bellcrank moves if not then that's gonna be the problem, and most of them should have grease points on them.
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    I disconnected the fork side and it seemed to move smoothly. There was no noise when it happened and there has been no issues prior to it happening.
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    Sounds like the throwout bearing or possibly pressure plate failure. Not sure if the bell housing is the same between the T5 and SR4/T18, but on mine I can (with a bit of effort) take a flashlight and see into the throwout bearing without dropping anything. I'd almost be a trans drop is gonna need to happen. With the fork side disco'ed does the fork move at all?
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    The fork only moves a very little bit. I'm starting to think that a clutch is going to be in order. Like I can afford this shit right now.
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    Usually, if the pressure plate goes bad, there is to much movement of the fork.

    Sounds like the throw out bearing my be seized to the nose cone of the trans, or the nose cone broke just in front of the throw out bearing, not allowing it to move forward.

    Like @Sr. Beaver said, you should be able to pull the rubber boot, and see inside somewhat-might need a mirror.

    Chances are, you'll be pulling the trans out.

    If it is the nose cone, take a pic., and measure the length. I have a spare SR4, and I believe the SR4, T4 and T5 all use the same nose cone. I know they all share the same bell housing.


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    ETA: Be careful not to loose the pivot ball!!!

    There's a small steel ball bearing, just a single ball, that the clutch fork pivots on. They like to jump out and roll away when the spring is removed.

    Now that I think of it, my T4 did the same thing when the spring broke, and the pivot ball fell out!
    The pedal wouldn't push the fork in.

    Make sure the ball is still in place.

    Was the return spring still hooked to the fork?


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    Well I crawled back underneath and had my daughter push the clutch pedal. The for move only about a 1/2 inch or so. I tried to look inside but couldn't see worth a damn so I couldn't say for sure what the throw out bearing or ball looks like. Looks like I'm going to have to have it towed over to the shop for teardown as I have no way to do it at home. Hopefully this isn't going to cost a fortune, I really don't want to have to cancel my badly needed vacation.
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