Dana 44 questions

[HillBillE]

I'm picking up a pair of Scout D 44 axles tomorrow.

Mainly becuase the price was right

They are on a CJ frame right now (it comes with the axles-bonus!)

Anyway, all I know about them is the front is a passenger side drop, like a CJ, and the bolt pattern is 5 on 5 1/2" like the CJ.

Anyone have any info on them?

Style of lock out?

Width close to a CJ widetrac?

Any pics of Scout 44's?

Any disadvantages of the Scout 44's?

just curious, most Q's will be answered tomorrow afternoon, when I pick up the rolling chassi

Not sure what I'll do yet. I've been collecting parts to make a trail rig, but I may use the axles under my CJ, which currently has the wide trac D30 (rebuilt 5K miles ago, with Superior axles w/760X joints, and the older 6 bolt style lock outs/hubs, and an Aussie locker) and the wide trac AMC 20, (also rebuilt 5K miles ago, with Superior 1 piece axles, tubes stitched, and housing trussed, also has Aussie locker)

Are the Scout axles beefy enough to make it worth swapping in place of my current axles? Or should I use them for a trail rig, that I'll probably put 35-36" tires on? (the CJ has 33's, probably never go bigger on it)

Thanks for any advice or input! HB

(I'll get pics up this week, after I see what I have. )

[RescueJP]

I say save those axles for a trail rig if your not going bigger then a 33

[JavaTee]

Width close to a CJ widetrac? I believe they are 58" square - meaning 58 f&r

Any pics of Scout 44's? besides going to Jeepforum - CJ section - no

Any disadvantages of the Scout 44's? check to see if the front axle caster is correct (5 to 6 degrees positive - top rotated towards rear of CJ) The only problem I've read about is steering issues. You might need to use a Scout steering box, or convert to a Chevy flat top knuckle <-- don't quote me, I'm still researching for myself.

just curious, most Q's will be answered tomorrow afternoon, when I pick up the rolling chassi

Not sure what I'll do yet. I've been collecting parts to make a trail rig, but I may use the axles under my CJ, which currently has the wide trac D30 (rebuilt 5K miles ago, with Superior axles w/760X joints, and the older 6 bolt style lock outs/hubs, and an Aussie locker) and the wide trac AMC 20, (also rebuilt 5K miles ago, with Superior 1 piece axles, tubes stitched, and housing trussed, also has Aussie locker)
I wouldn't swap them out until I broke something. It sounds to me that you've fixed the weak links in both 'CJ' axles. The upgrades should rate 35" tires without issue.
Are the Scout axles beefy enough to make it worth swapping in place of my current axles? Or should I use them for a trail rig, that I'll probably put 35-36" tires on? If you are going to build a straight trail rig, I would search for one ton axles that will be able to take the punishment (the CJ has 33's, probably never go bigger on it)
Thanks for any advice or input! HB

(I'll get pics up this week, after I see what I have. )

I'm ready to see some pics. I'll do some more reading and update anything I missed.
Later, T.J.

[Fred]

Run them on your CJ and make a heck of a trail worthy yet street drivable rig. D44'd from a scout are really only good for 37's MAX (well any D44 for that matter)

[cj5_1965]

As far as I know, The Scout Dana 44 axle are just like all the other Dana 44's. The really should not be much difference in the internals and everthing else. The only thing you might want to try and do is swap out the brakes, I think that is the only thing that scout did thier own thing.

[HillBillE]

Thanks for the info guys! I hope to get pics up tonight, (I'm at the hotel right now)

So far it looks good! For $200 and a case of Lienies Honeywiess, I got the front and rear Dana 44's, attatched to a solid CJ7 frame!

He through in a bunch of stuff with it, like extra lock out parts, shocks, and what I believe are 'drive slugs' for a 44, but for the 'newer' lock out style hubs.

The front has the same 6 bolt style hubs/lockouts as my CJ, but these are the good WARN ones, and the rear has already been converted to diasc brakes!

Bad news is, I think they are 'Lincoln Locked' front and rear, won't know for sure until I pull the covers.

Gotta go for dinner and a couple of 's, I'll snap some pics after I eat

[deckster]

You cannot go wrong -biggest challange might be hooking up steering for the axles.I hads several challenges with my axle drop-chevy blazer corp 10 bolt rear axle/dana 44 front axle in to 1971 wagoneer besides sterring also had issues with springs(swapped out mount leafsand reassembled spring packs)brakes-went to power assisted front discs,and steer arms and linkages and shock mounts but everything went suprisingly well.It beats updating jeep axles with latest gear when you know what has worked for years in other rigs---too badd you did not get dana300 twinstick transfer case also

[HillBillE]

..........too badd you did not get dana300 twinstick transfer case also

It had a Dana 20 in it, mated to a TH400 and 350 small block. He sold that set up for $350.

I have a D300 twin stick in my CJ now, and another case at home, that just needs an output shaft and sticks.

Here's the pics:
Driver side steering arm:


Passenger side arm:

Front view:

Lockout:

[HillBillE]

Rear disc set up:


Rear pumpkin:


Frame:


Extras:

Stock CJ skid:


More Extras:


I'm pretty happy with the deal, even though I had to drive 9 hours round trip We made it an overnight, with a nice dinner, swim in the pool, and to keep the wife happy, going to a bid greenhouse tomorrow

Maybe I'll pull the covers while she's looking for plants!

HB

[JavaTee]

You definitely scored on that one. What are thinking of doing with the rolling chassis? Trail rig, small buggy build, or modified CJ restore?
Later, T.J.